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I came across a rather intruiging image in a blog a couple of weeks ago ... and typically didn't think to bookmark the link or anything. Anyway, it's been bugging me and so I googled and (amazingly!) managed to find the image again, although not the blog. Now I'm wondering if anyone has any information about the image?

Tis here: http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/147x_inkle.jpg

From what I can see, it's 15th Century (second half? ... I'm not so hot on post-1400 costume) and the lady in front appears to be using what could be a warping board or could be an inkle-like loom. The lady on the left is winding yarn onto or off of a niddy noddy. It's less clear what the other two are doing.

(Also, as an academic point, isn't the lady in blue on the left wearing what all the 15th C recreators want to see - the infamous black band, unobscured by a henin or anything?)

Anywho, it also appears to be a scan of a book. The book appears to have edited out the background of the manuscript.

So, anyone know of any other webpages that mention this image? Anyone know the book it is scanned from? Or, does anyone know the answer to the million-dollar question - which manuscript is it from?

Thanks in advance!

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ursule
Aug. 27th, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC)
I found the book by putting the fragment of text into Google Books. It's a Time-Life book on medieval Europe:

http://books.google.com/books?id=-6MNAQAAMAAJ
paantha
Aug. 27th, 2011 04:57 pm (UTC)
Wow. Didn't even know that was possible. O_O

Thanks for your help. Now, the debate is whether it is of a good enough quality book that it gives references for its images. Probably not as it's a kids' book...
a_c_fiorucci
Aug. 27th, 2011 06:07 pm (UTC)
This picture is on p. 118. Picture credits for that page are:Bibliotehe`que nationale de France, Paris (bird)--Gianni Dagli Orti, Paris; Bibliothe`que nationale de France, Paris.

I think the one you want is Gianni Dagli Orti and might just be the photographer, at least that is what is coming up in a quick search. No other reference is given in the book that I can see.

The owner of that page is still active & on LJ--so you could try dropping them a note via the website, if you haven't already.

Good luck!
paantha
Aug. 29th, 2011 09:20 am (UTC)
Thank you for your help!
sarcasticmuppet
Aug. 27th, 2011 05:11 pm (UTC)
What an interesting picture! I wish there was more context to it (if you can get a hold of the book, maybe there's a citation for it somewhere). Without any other context, my first impulse upon seeing it was that it might be some kind of rig for reeling or plying silk, though that still seems wrong.

Larsdatter has some really interesting links on winding tools here: http://www.larsdatter.com/winding.htm. There looks to be something quite similar to a warping board here: http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/zi1800_0086a.jpg, as well as a ton of portrayals of niddy noddies and more than one picture of something almost resembling an umbrella swift.
alienorfileuse
Aug. 29th, 2011 11:34 am (UTC)
Without any other context, my first impulse upon seeing it was that it might be some kind of rig for reeling or plying silk, though that still seems wrong.
The woman looks to be using her left hand to hold the shed open as if it's an inkle loom (or as if the artist had once seen somebody use an inkle loom and almost remembered right - there's no heddle rod)
paantha
Aug. 29th, 2011 01:06 pm (UTC)
Hmm... to me it looks far more like a warping board or an inkle-esque loom than something for reeling silk.

However, thanks for those links - I'm quite familiar with Karen Larsdatter's site but I hadn't looked on that particular part of it before. I didn't find anything particularly useful relating to this ... but I did find what is almost certainly a depiction of sprang weaving. :D
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