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Two-person fingerloop - advice needed

Hello everyone,

I'm hoping to do some two-person fingerloop braids with a friend this weekend. However, I'm getting horribly confused by the notation and whose hands go where. I was hoping to do some of the braids from here:

Does anyone have any advice/hints/tips? Favourite two-person braids? Easy two-person braids? Instructions?

This'll mostly just be for fun. However, my friend has never done fingerloop before (though he has done just about every other sort of braiding one can think of), so I'm hoping to a) make something reasonably pretty and/or impressive, to convince him it's a good technique but also b) not get in a horrific tangle, despite being two beginners, and thus scare him off from ever helping me with them again. :)

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Just to say, I'm particularly getting confused with the instructions that say "work with inner hands" or "work with outer hands". Does this mean if I am on the left and my partner is on my right, our hand go l->r like this: my left, their left, my right, their right? Or do the hands go: my left, my right, their left, their right? 

I.e. do my hands work as a pair and my partner's hands work as a pair, with occasional exchanges between these two pairs? Or do my l. hand and their l. hand work as a pair, and my r. hand and their l. hand work as a pair, with occasional exchanges between these two pairs? 

EDIT 2: Sorry guys, removed the link when re-writing for clarity and forgot to put it back in.
Here is my primary source for patterns
Here is my second source of patterns

An example of a braid with instructions to "work with inner hands" would be t29. Interestingly, I just noticed another braid which instructs to "work with left hand" or "work with right hand".


Aug. 1st, 2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Without having a partner to work through t29 with ... it does look like you work primarily between your own hands. (If your partner is on your right, your outer hand will be your left hand, your inner hand will be your right hand; if your partner is on your left, the other way around -- this will keep the pattern symmetrical between the two of you.) Then you exchange loops with your partner where indicated, in the third part of the instructions, and repeat working the first two parts on your own hands again before exchanging with your partner.

t34 is complex enough that I can't keep what all the threads are doing in my head, but again, outer should be "the hand away from your partner" and inner should be "the hand toward your partner."

This looks enormously nifty and I wish I could join the two of you! And thank you so much for the amazing links; I hadn't heard about silkewerk.com before, and I foresee some happy hours blistering the sides of my fingers. :)
Aug. 2nd, 2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your input. I had another look at the t29 and t34 and I think I have figured it out:

"work with inner/outer hand" perhaps means use YOUR left/right hand while your partner does nothing
"work with right/left hand" perhaps means both people do identical moves but work with themselves

Either that or they are equivalent terms.

In any case, you have been very helpful. Sometimes someone else's input is just what you need.

I have some more links to useful fingerloop pages on my blog: blackcatsews.blogspot.co.uk
Aug. 4th, 2012 10:05 am (UTC)
Just to say, someone else has chimed in below and now I understand it.

Both "inner/outer" and "left/right" mean both people do the move individually. The difference is "inner/outer" results in the two people doing a mirror-image of each other. "Right/left" results in the two people doing identical moves.